Instead, after mentioning Helgen, each will assume that the Dragonborn wants to join their side. Tullius or Ulfric will ask what the Dragonborn's thoughts are: The choice made counts as a 'score' to the side the Dragonborn agrees with. If I hand over Markarth, you'll be ready with a new demand. i was wondering about a real neutral truce during this cease-fire meeting. The Dragonborn will speak to the Greybeards, who will agree to help negotiate a truce. There is recorded dialogue present in the game files. ", Arngeir: "Are we ready to proceed? Staying seated and waiting twenty-four hours in-game will trigger the meeting. However, Delphine and Esbern will show up demanding entrance to the conference, representing the Blades. We all wait upon you, Dragonborn. Main quest Don't you understand what the return of the dragons means? General Tullius: "Our terms are simple. Liberate The Reach. Season Unending - posted in Skyrim Special Edition Mod Requests: ok so here is the idea: when you do the quest season unending you get the 2 Waring factions to sit together and try to have a peace talk. Talk to General Tullius 3. Otherwise, the disgruntled side continues to complain about the unfairness of the treaty, and then come up with another suggestion. Galmar Stone-Fist: "Of course not! You can't be taking this demand seriously! You haven't been able to take it back yet. With Esbern's help, I persuaded General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Enough, Galmar." You insult us by bringing her to this negotiation? 1. If I can get the Greybeards to host a peace council, I can try to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. If the Dragonborn has sided with the Stormcloaks, General Tullius will demand that Riften be turned over to the Empire. There is a way to stay out of the civil war but you will have to make arrangements in Season Unending. Even now, he devours the souls of your fallen comrades! There is no dialogue during the quest to suggest that the two are meeting for the first time in High Hrothgar. This council wasn't my idea. Ulfric's been telling lies about himself for so long, he's actually starting to believe them. You can talk to the two leaders in either order, using the dialogue option "I have a message from the Greybeards" (if this dialogue option is missing, see the notes). The matter at hand is urgent. They will each provide a variety of dialogue options, depending upon the progress of the civil war and whether or not the other leader has already agreed to attend the council. This quest is introduced toward the end of the "Skyrim Civil War" quest-line. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. General Tullius: "Well that's an excellent question. Ulfric Stormcloak: "No. The side that was about to walk out is now given the chance to suggest additional truce terms to appease them and even out the overall agreement. Once the peace conference has started, the Dragonborn is given a multitude of options, mostly having to do with the side taken in the Civil War questline. Evgiir Unslaad, or "Season Unending" is the Ancient. Stormcloaks pay compensation for the massacre at Karthwasten. These are the terms currently on the table. The following empty quest stages were omitted from the table: 0, 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 20, 30, 50, 52, 70, 80, 81, 82, 85, 90, 100, 105, 110, 120, 130, 140, 141, 142, 143, 150, 151, 152, 160, 170, 180, 181, 182, 190, 191, 192, 195, 196, 199, 200, 201, 202, 205, 206, 209, 210, 260, 265, 280, 281, 282, 285, 290, 320, 340. Alternative dealing with choice in Civil War questline (not available if no side has been chosen yet). Alternatively, if the Dragonborn has any outstanding "initiation" quests running, then completing them should allow talking to the appropriate leader. Take them outside the conference chamber and ask them to wait before you take your seat. Can you not put aside your hatred for even one moment in the face of this mortal danger?" You get to decide whether she stays or leaves. Tullius' reasons for why Elenwen should stay: Ulfric's reasons for why Elenwen should leave: If Elenwen leaves, her parting comments are: If Elenwen stays, the dialogue is instead: Before Ulfric sits down at the council table, he insists that the Thalmor representative, Elenwen, be removed. However, three Ori warships soon arrive. Find top songs and albums by Season Unending including Spellcaster, Creator and more. If the Negotiations favor the side the Dragonborn has chosen, then they are rewarded with a leveled Enchanted Weapon. If you have joined that side's faction you will receive as reward one leveled enchanted weapon. You don't have to do anything, as Arngeir will agree. You're here to blacken the Empire's name, and I won't be party to it. If you are simply interested in completing this quest as quickly as possible, this section probably is not of interest. The information can still be useful if you decide to pick a side. ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "As for you, General Tullius, I see now that Galmar was right. Once you are ready to start the council meeting, you will need to talk to Arngeir — although he will forcibly start the discussion if you avoid him for too long. Season Unending choices and consequences? More notably, your recent victory in the previous battle against Alduin will make him even more likely to respond to your Voice. The hold to be exchanged will be random, and you have the choice of choosing between two. It is possible to bypass this entirely, however, if you leave High Hrothgar quickly enough. You are a traitor to the Empire, and deserve a traitor's death. The meeting may not start after the Dragonborn has taken a seat. The reverse holds if the score is negative. This quest occurs only if you have not resolved the Civil War Quests yet. A minor hold is always available (once both minor holds have been conquered, the winning side controls eight holds and Season Unending will not start). ", Arngeir: "Now that that's settled, may we proceed?" I think it's a waste of time. This means that the opening demand is always for The Reach (if being made by the Stormcloaks) or for The Rift (if being made by the Imperials). That's our price for agreeing to a truce." If it still does not trigger, all guests should sit down after five to ten minutes of real time. Once Season Unending is complete, the Civil War will be on hold until the Main Quest is complete. On my first playthrough, it did it WITHOUT ever doing Season Unending because the civil war was running deep when I got to this point. Your role in the negotiations is to make a series of decisions about which holds are exchanged, and other terms of the truce. Ulfric Stormcloak: "If he's right about Alduin... we both have just as much to lose here, Tullius, remember that. Galmar Stone-Fist/Vignar Gray-Mane: "Ulfric, you can't be taking this demand seriously? The conditions of the truce the Dragonborn negotiates during this quest have (far … Here you sit arguing about... nothing! In particular, he emphasizes that any soldiers killed in the war end up strengthening Alduin, because the dragon feeds on their souls. The Dragonborn can back out of conversation when both Ulfric and Tullius speak to them. If we have to negotiate the terms of the negotiation, we will never get anywhere. The following table summarizes the options available during negotiation if you have joined the Imperial Legion or if you have never joined either side. This quest starts early in the concurrent quest, The Fallen, but only if the Jarl of Whiterun (Balgruuf or Vignar) insists that a truce must be negotiated before allowing Dragonsreach to be used to capture a dragon. A ponderous windbag, like most Imperial generals.". ", Galmar Stone-First: "We walk, then." I need to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. In this scenario, Whiterun is considered to be controlled by the Imperials. Arngeir: "But the difficulty remains - how to lure a dragon to Dragonsreach at all?" Ulfric Stormcloak: "Galmar/Vignar. I need to ensure that nothing is agreed to here that violates the terms of the White-Gold Concordat." Alduin must be stopped. It's such a unique little gem. 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